Sie schreiben heute von Japan. Es konfrontiert das europäische reptilia, das anhebt, es ist enorm, Sie hat respektiert. G.liogaster und G.chamaeleontinus, hat es mit Ausbreitung gefolgt. Mein Traum ist Lyriocephalus. Jemand, das er nicht verkauft? Sie haben gesucht. Fassen Sie Sein merkwürdig, es inhaliert nicht ab.
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Ich deute einfach mal, dass es sich bei Katsu H. um einen Japaner, jedenfalls Nicht-Deutschen mit bescheidenen Deutschkenntnissen und/oder einem schlechten Übersetzer/Wörterbuch handelt...Ich hoffe mein Englisch ist verständlicher als sein Deutsch...
Dear Katsu H.,
what you have written is quite difficult to understand.
Please try to rephrase your concern (possibly in english)?
[[ggg]Editiert von flo.goetz am 22-11-2005 um 20:37 GMT[/ggg]]
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Re: japan
So did I get it right that you are looking for information about german/european experiences in keeping and captive breeding of Gonocephalus liogaster, G. chamaeleontinus and Lyriocephalus scutatus?
If so, I may summarize the current Situation in a nutshell:
G. chamaeleontinus has been imported quite frequently in recent years.
Anyhow, Imports now have ceased and the species has been replaced by G. bellii and G. grandis for most importers.
Not too many G. chamaleontinus are left over from the old imports.
Wc specimens of this species have proven to be difficult to establish.
This is mainly due to the extremely bad condition of the imports. These agamids are very stress sensitive and most specimens are already very moribund once they reach the shops.
In contrast to that, once established, they are easy to maintain and very hardy.
But breeding still is not straightforward. Only few herpers have constant success. In contrast to what is published, my females always layed just 2-3 eggs, which in addition to that were difficult to find in big naturalistically furnished tanks -which I strongly recommend for keeping of any Gonocephalus.
So its not easy to produce significant amounts of G. chamaeleontinus offspring.
Also even those herpers, whose chamaleontinus produce up to 7 eggs do not have overwhelming success in producing offspring from these lizards on a regular basis.
Most specimens in the pet trade originated from Java. But also some deviantly coloured chamaleontinus were available from time to time. They looked like Sumatra animals and -at least in my hands- they were not sexually compatible to the Java animals.
Last year I lost both of my female chamaeleontinus and since then I did not manage to finde healthy semiadults or adults on the market at all.
So you see, the situation is difficult.
The next species, G. leiogaster is hardly available in Europe. I only know of 2-3 imports in the last years (if we leave out few specimens imported by some Berlin guys).
G. belli is easily available these days and imports are much more robust than chamaeleontinusn imports and mostly do well in captivity-But again there are only few breeders and my personal success in breeding these was close to zero (no eggs hatched).
For G. grandis the situation is similar. At least some breeding is reported.
With respect to L. scutatus you should contact "Echsenwelpe" in this forum. He is a very successful breeder of this beautiful species.
But afaik his bloodline, which has started to spread a bit, is at present the only one in Europe.
Hope that helps
Best regards
Ingo
[[ggg]Editiert von Ingo am 23-11-2005 um 08:29 GMT[/ggg]]Kober? Ach der mit den Viechern!
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Re: japan
Thank you for visiting my website and providing the valuable information.
Unfortunately, I am not good at English as you might expect, but my friend helps my English.
I apologize if it takes long time to feedback. I will try to get you back as soon as possible.
Again, I do appreciate all your information, and any information would be more than welcome!
Thank you for all your understandings.
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